Tuesday, April 17, 2007

القاعهرة التي عرفتها والجنس اللي عيني عينك




من حوالي اسبوعين رحت مؤتمر طبي في القاهرة, المؤتمر كان في فندق السلام كونكورد لمدة ثلاثة ايام كنت انا ومجموعة من صحابي وكنا بنبيت في شقة واحد صاحبنا في الهرم او بالادق في شارع جانبي متفرع من الهرم عند مسرح سيد درويش كده, وطبعا كنا بننزل كل يوم نخرج ونتفرج علي البلد, وكعادتنا كل ما ننزل القاهرة مرة سيتي ستارز مرة وسط البلد مرة الكورنيش وهكذا, اما بالنسبة لشارع الهرم كنا بنعدي دايما عليه ونشوف الكباريهات اللي فيه الشيطان يفضل يلعب في دماغنا لكننا عمرنا ما دخلنا, المهم تاني يوم كنا ماشيين في طلعت حرب وكشباب قروي سازج جاي من الاسماعيلية قال بنتفرج علي المحلات ونشوف الزحمة ونشم شوية هوا ملوث كعادتنا لغاية ما سمعنا صوت عالي واغاني قلنا ده يظهر كده في حفلة دي جي لما نشوف بنحسب بقي زي عندنا كده الكلام ده كان جنب مسرح فؤاد المهندس مباشرة دخلنا نبص وعينك ما تشوف الا النور قصدي الا الظلمة ونور احمر خافت وشوية بنات لابسين ستوماك وقصير عمالين يرقصوا ويتمايلوا علي شوية شباب, واحنا علي الباب لقينا بنتين جايين ناحيتنا ولزقوا فينا تعالي خش اتفرج مش هتخسر حاجة سألناهم علي النظام قالولنا علي النظام والاسعار وفهمنا ان كل شئ فوق الهدوم ماشي, كان في بنت جامدة قوي كل ما صحبي يسألها علي حاجة تقرب منه وكأنها هاتبوسه, الواد ركبه سابت , المهم مشينا علي طول واحنا مستغربين قوي ده ايه ده, احة ولا مؤاخذة ده في وسط البلد وعيني عينك كده الخمره والمليطة امال شارع الهرم يبقي ايه بقي؟

المهم قلنا لازم بقي نشوف شارع الهرم
واحنا لسه ماشيين في الشارع اللي فيه شركات الطيران الكتير ده, انا ماعرفش اسمه , والساعة كانت حوالي واحدة بالليل لقينا واحدة فورتيكة نازلة من عربية لابسة ميكرو جيب وبادي مبين اكترمن نص صدرها وراحت داخلة في طرقة كده معفنة, احنا وقفنا وبعدين لقينا شوية اجانب نازلين من عربيات وبيخشوا نفس الطرقة المعفنة انا قلت دول شكلهم مضيفين تبع شركة طيران او سياحة , قام صاحبي قاللي ياللا نشوف قمنا دخلنا الطرقة المعفنة مشينا مسافة قصيرة لقينا حاجة زي مطعم او كافتريا المهم طلع بار دخلنا لقينا ناس يدوك انطباع اولي انهم محترمين قاعدين علي طرابيزات وعلي كل طرابيزة شرموطة ولا مؤاخذة قعدة تفرفش القعدة وكالعادة اتصدمنا بعد ما ملينا عنينا شوية ومشينا علي باب الطرقة لقينا عسكري سلمنا عليه واتمنينا له ولحكومته دوام الصحة والعافية
قلت لصاحبي يظهر القاعهرة كلها بقت كباريهات ولا ايه؟ المهم اتفقنا ان اي مكان قاعد قدامة عسكري اذا ما كنش بنك فهو اكيد بار, ديسكو اي مدعكة والسلام ولازم نخشها, عندك ولسه ممشناش خطويتين وفي نفس الشارع لقينا طرقة معفنه وقدامها عسكري طبعا رشقنا لقينا في بار او متفهمش وريحه الخمر وصوت قلة الادب بيلعلع المهم كنا لسه هندخل وقفنا واحد علي الباب وسألنا رايحين فين قلناله بكل ثقة داخلين قال حاجزين قلنا لأ قال يبقي اسف لازم حجز او كبلز ومنيمم تشارش 60 جنيه والخميس 100 ولو مفيش حريم هو هيورفلنا منقلقش يعني واهو كله بحسابه بس دلوقتي مش هينفع نخش والباند شغال قلناله قشطه شغال , المكان كان اسمه
***** تم حذف الاسم
طبعا بعد ما قلنا *** تم ازالة ما قلناه , ده يظهر البلد كلها مدعره وتحت الشقق السكنية وفي وسط البلد كده عيني عينك, ضحكنا علي سذاجتنا قال احنا بنخش سينما ونتفرج علي المحلات ونمص جيلاتي قال هههه ده احنا غلابة قوي
المهم فضلنا ماشيين نبص علي حاجتين علي الطرقات المعفنة وسط العمارات او علي العساكر اللي قاعدين في حتت معفنة وعلطول نعرف انه قاعد يحرس مدعرة , ولغاية ما وصلنا الهرم كنا عرفنا كذا مكان علشان لما نيجي بعد كده
الهرم
وصلنا الهرم ياسيدي قلنا ناخد الشارع من اوله بقي ما احنا لسه جداد في الكار ده, دخلنا الاول مكان اسمه *** تم ازالة الاسم وهو فعلا ***, استقبلتنا واحدة لابسه قصدي مش لابسه غير الاندر وير, سنتيان احمر مبين صدرها كله وسليب اصفر او برتقالي حاجة زي كده معلش اصل انا مكنتش مهتم باللون قوي وبعدين اتلم حوالينا شوية بنات اعمارهم في العشرينات اجسامهم جامدة بس مش حلوين قوي كل واحدة تشد فينا وتقول تعالوا هنا وتشاور علي ترابيزه المهم سألنا علي الاسعار وعرفنا النظام وفهمنا ان ممكن ايدك تخش تحت الهدوم شويه قلنا كويس في تطور في شارع الهرم وبعدين خلعنا بعد ما فهمناهم ان لينا اصحاب بره هنجبهم ونيجي لو المكان كان عجبنا , وخلعنا وبنفس الاسلوب دخلنا كذا مكان لغاية ما ركنا العربية ونزلنا مشينا علي رجلينا لقينا الناس بيشدونا علشان نخش دي حاجة حلوة قوي قال واحنا كنا بنسيب العيال بتوع المحلات في وسط البلد يشدونا قال مش قلتلكم غلابة, تعالي يابيه تعالي يا باشا شوف المكان لو مش عاجبك امشي عندنا بنات فايف ستارز عندنا قعده حلوه عندنا قعده هتعجبك كل اللي انت عايزه ماشي واهو كله ماشي , دخلنا مكان اسمه **** تقريبا جنب **** بصراحة كان جامد اول لما دخلنا لاقينا حوال 5 بنات حوالينا اللي عماله تحك في دراعي واالي تتلزق فيا وحتة مزه عماله تلعبلي في شفايفي وللاسف انا كان عندي قرحة في شفتي من الداخل وواجعاني جدا حاجة كده اسمها
aphthous ulcer
لكن طبعا مقلتلهاش تبطل رغم ان شفتي كانت واجعاني لكن ابو بلاش كتر منه, وفضلنا واقفين خمس دقايق عرفنا النظام ومشينا علي وعد بالحضور غدا ويا فكيك, في **** بقي اول لما دخلنا الديسكو لقينا واحد خليجي بالجلبية والعجال ماسك واحدة وعمال يرقص معاها وهاري صدرها دعك كده عيني عينك والسيرفيس بتاع الفندق عمال يخدم عليه قلنا ياعيني وكالعادة يا فكيك , الساعة وصلت تلاتة ونص واحنا تعبنا وزهقنا بعد ما شفنا نص كباريهات الشارع وعرفنا القاعهرة الجديدة و**** والمدعرة اللي عيني عينك وخدنا بعضنا ومشينا بعد ما عرفنا احنا لما ننزل القاهرة تاني هنعمل ايه بالظبط بلا سينما بلا محلات , اه نسيت اقولكم, كذا مره واحنا بنلف نشوف واحدة طالعة من كباريه بتظبط هدومها ورايحة تركب عربية اخر موديل مستنيها واحد جواها وواخداها واحد من الكباريه موصلها لباب العربية , حاجة زي دعارة دليفري كده
بعد ما خلصنا ليلتنا قلنا اه منك يا بلد كل ده فيكي وتحت عين الحكومة وبترخيص منها كمان ده احنا نستاهل اللي بيحصل فينا واكتر كمان !!!!! ومن ساعتها عرفت ان القاهرة اسمها اصلا القاعهرة
رحنا نمنا وتاني يوم في المؤتمر كان المحاضر بيتكلم عن مشروع بحث لقياس معدل انتشار الايدز في مصر وقال ان العينة كانت هتبقي حاجة من تلاتة يا اما السجون علشان الشذوذ اللي فيها او من المدمنين او من ال البغايا
Prostitute
وقال انهم بقوا كتير قوي ردينا وقلنا اي نعم قال بس المشكله هيلموهم اذاي فخلوا الدكاترة تنزل بعربياتهم شارع الهرم وقدام الكباريهات يجيبوا البغايا ويدوهم فلوس في مقابل اخذ عينة الدم بدل ما هما بياخذوا فلوس مقابل الجنس , قمت انا وصحابي بصينا لبعض ومتنا علي نفسنا من الضحك وقلنا كويس تعبنا امبارح مكانش علي فشوش اهو تدريب عملي برضه, وسألنا هل ممكن الدكاتره ياخدوا عينة دم وليلة حمراء جملة واحدة والبغايا تعملهم تخفيض؟؟؟
اه ياني منك يا بلد

تنويه
اسف علي استخدام الفاظ نابية
اسف علي الاطالة
تحديث
بناء علي رغبة القراء وبعض الاصدقاء تم حذف اسماء الاماكن وتم تعديل بعض الالفاظ

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أُكتب بالرصاص said...

يا نهار مقندل

تعرف انا كنت يوماتي اجيب شارع الهرم من اوله لاخره
...
لا....
علشان ساكن هناك

وعمري
ما شفت الحاجات اللي بتحكي عليها دي

وشوف انا بقالي قد ايه في القاهرة

وعمري ما لاحظت بارات وسط البلد
ولا الحجات دي

تيجوا انتم في نص ليلية وتكتشفوا كل الحاجات دي


همممم

حظوظ

جتنا نيلة في حظنا الهباب

Mohamed A. Ghaffar said...

مناظر اصبحت عاديه جداً ، لم استغرب شئ ربنا يعفينا

اعتذارك عن استخدام الفاظ نابيه لا يعفيك ولن يعفيك الا اغلائها

صدقنى المقال افضل كثير جداً بدونها

مختار العزيزي said...

أنا بس لي سؤال، لو هتاخد عينة دم عشان موضوع بحث الإيدز ده هل هتاخدها من عاهرات أجنبيات أم مصريات؟
لو هتاخد من أجنبيات أعتقد هتلاقي وفرة في الروسيات في فندق أوروبا القاهرة بتاع محمد الفقي، ودول بيبقوا مقيمين هناك في غرف أصلا.
لو هتحصر البحث في المصريات مش هينفع، ضروري تشوف بؤر الإيدز الأجنبية لأنها بتساعد علي نشر المرض باردوا.

وباردوا مش بالضرورة العاهرة اللي عندها إيدز يكون سببه إنها وعاء لكل قاذف، جايز أوي يكون عن طريق المخدرات مثلا .

المهم باردوا مش إزاي همه اتصابوا، المهم انهم مصدر محتمل لاصابة الآخرين.

وربنا يوفقك، ومش هوصيك علي نفسك، الراجل اللي بيعط بيبقي زي كارت
ATM
صلاحيته سنة أو ثلاث سنوات علي أقصي تقدير.بعدها البنك بيخرم الكارت ثلاث خروم.
وخليك في الحلال يا معلم

محمد الهنداوى said...

التفسير الوحيد لكونك شفت كل ده
عارف ايه؟
انك كنت عاوز تشوفه
الراجل اللى ساكن فى الهرم(اكتب بالرصاص) ما شافش لانه مش مفكر يشوف
انا رأيى ان كل واحد بيشوف اللى بيدور عليه
يعنى انا بروح القاهره كتير جدا عمرى ما فكرت كده
انت اللى مركز زياده حبتين

david santos said...

Hello, my friend Daktara!
You post is very nice. thank you

The language cannot be an impediment to the of clarification so that a terrorist as Bush can continue to lie


لغة لا يمكن ان يكون عائقا امام توضيح ذلك ان الارهابي بوش ان تواصل الكذب

bastokka طهقانة said...

يا ساتر يا رب
يعني لو حصل زلزال هد البلد على اللي فيها محدش يرجع يعيط
ربنا ينجينا
الا هو اية ال((( لابسين ستوماك)))ده
معلش اصل انا ضعيفة في النحوي

lojain said...

حلو الموضوع
مش حلو ابدااااااااااااا الكلام
زعلانين منك قوى يا دكتور
هى جراتك حلوة وكل حاجة بس الموضوع تعدى حد الجراة
وفعلا الاعتذار عن الالفاظ
ميزيلش الذنب ابدا
:((((

SAMEH said...

إنت بتفكرني بيوم كنت ماشي بأتسنكح في وسط البلد متأخر
و فجأه سمعنا هيصه و خناق
لمارحنا لقينا كام بنت من إياهم
و اقفين عند مكان من إياهم
معاهم كام واحد من إياهم
و هاتك يا ردح و تقطيع في هدوم بعض
و الناس واقفه تتفرج لحد ما جه كام ضابط من إياهم
و عرفنا بعد كده إن كان فيه مشكله في الحساب
طبعاً الحساب إياه

daktara said...

بالنسبة للالفاظ النابية
انا لا اعفي نفسي من مسؤليتها
وانا بطبعي لا احب ولا اميل الي استعمالها او قرأتها
لكن الموضوع واللي انا شفته وعرفته كان لازم يتكتب علي نفس الدرجة
اعذوروني

daktara said...

محمد الهنداوي

لا انكر اني كنت عايز اعرف ايه اللي بيحصل في الاماكن دي واشوف علي الحقيقة
ما كلنا شفنا في الافلام بس الواقع شيء مختلف
حب فضول ومعرفة

ادم المصري said...

اتاريك بتقووووووووووووووول
ان قصايدي بتضحك

هههههههههههه
ما انت لازم تضحك فعلا

Anonymous said...

هه؟؟؟؟؟
صدمه
هو مش صدمه المفروض أن الواحد عارف ان ده بيحصل وموجود
بس برده
صدمه

lojain said...

والله ماكان لازم استخدامها ولا حاجة
زى ماهو مش مستحب ابدا انه يبقى فى فضول فى الحاجات دى والكلام يصدم بس مش مستغربينه لاننا عارفين انه بيحصل بلاوى

بس برده انا زعلانة قوى
:((((

كراكيب عادل said...

يارايح مصر فية منك كتير

كثير من العباد كثير من الفسقه كثير من العلماء كثيرا من كل شئ

لا تستعجب فقط ابتعد عن اماكن الشيطان تسلم

Conceição Bernardino said...

Olá,
Desculpe a minha ausência, mas o que importa é, que estou de volta.
Ofereço-lhe este poema da minha autoria...

Sorriso


Não me lembro de ter nascido,
Não me lembro de ter vivido,
Não me lembro, jamais de alguma coisa
Se não somente, de ter sofrido!
Mas que importa isso agora?
Se sou feliz por ora.
Tenho amigos por todo lado
Os quais eu tanto amo
Os quais eu muito respeito
Sou feliz, por fazer sorrir alguém
Que sofre tanto ou mais do que eu.


Conceição Bernardino

Beijinhos e uma boa semana...
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يا مراكبي said...

طعا في الأول بأضم صوتي لصوت محمد عبد الغفار بخصوص اللأفاظ .. وخصوصا إننا عهدنا فيك غير كده .. وده حرص عليك مش تجريح فيك

ثانيا .. زي ما حصل لأكتب بالرصاص .. انا حصل لي كده في مصر برضة .. كانوا يقولولي على أماكن فيها حاجات كدة وانا ما أشوفهاش .. الموضوع محتاج تركيز وإصرار وبحث.. وحسب النية هتلاقي طلبك

عموما هو موضوع محبط للغاية وأكتر من توقعاتنا بكتير .. ربنا يعافي الجميع

smraa alnil said...

في الفاظ بديلة
قد تكون اخف وطأة من الالفاظ اللي استخدمتها

يعني باغية او عاهرة استخدامها مش هيضر

بس كل اللي مذكور دة مش جديد

ومعروف
واحيانا يمارس العهر برخصة
تحمل احدي الفتيات رخصة لاستخدام العهر في الفنادق والمناطق السياحية كشرم الشيخ
وتخضع لكشف طبي
للتاكد من خلوها من الامراض

تعرف انت بقي المعلومة دي؟

daktara said...
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daktara said...

lojain
وانا ما اقدرش علي زعلك بس اعذريني
انا نويت من الاول علي استخدام الالفاظ دي رغم اني محرج منها ومن قولها او كتاباتها ولا اريد ان يعرف احد ابدا انني ممكن حتي اقولها
بس الموضوع ما يتكتبش غير كده
من وجهة نظري المتواضعة طبعا

daktara said...

smraa alnil

انا عارف انه مرخص ليهم
لكن بيتم الكشف عليهم
اشك؟؟؟؟
بره بيحصل لكن في مصر ماعتدقتش ان بيتكشف عليهم
مش لما يكشفوا علي الناس العاديين الاول ويدوهم خدماتهم الصحية؟
ولا ايه؟

daktara said...

يا عادل
يا مراكبي
فقط ابتعد عن اماكن الشيطان تسلم
ربنا يعافي الجميع

شكرا لكم وربنا يحمينا جميعا من شرهم ان شاء الله

واحد زهقان said...

فعلا...اللي بيدور على حاجة بيلاقيها

انا طول عمري عايش في القاهرة وماخدتش بالي ان الاماكن دي كترت لدرجة انك تشوفهم بالكثافة دي في ليلة واحدة

david santos said...

We go all to today start to fight for the end of the wars, the badness and the tyranny. We go to start to fight for the peace, the friendship between the peoples, the tolerance and solidarity. We go all to fight so that the 2007 either year that it justifies to have civilization in our Planet.

Ghost said...

يعنى حضرتك دخلت وخضت التجربه
وجيت هنا تكتب بالتفصيل وبالاسماء بدقه
وكام صوره عريانه
وعاوز تنصح الناس ماتروحش
احا م القلب

khaled said...

ايه يا ابنى كل ده
انتا مالكش انك تنزل القاهره
بجد معنتش تنزل هناك خليك حداك فى الكفر
ههههههههههههههههه

FrEe.PhArAoH said...

تمام
احساسك بالدهشة جميل وعرفت تعبر عنه بأسلوب حلو جدااا على فكره
لازم اكيد اللى بيحبك يقلك الالفاظ مش اد كدا .. بس زى منتا قلت فى حاجات لازم توصل بنفس درجتها من البذائه وانت مبتغلطش فحد انت بتعبر بأسلوب حقيقى مش مزيف و معروف انك انسان محترم
طبعا فى بنات بتتحرج من الكلام دا بس البنات دى حلها انها متعلقش لو مش عايزه .. انت حر يا ريس تعبر براحتك وانا حر اعلق براحتى .. تمام
حكومتك زبالة .. قريب هنلاقى الشذوذ برخصة والسرقة برخصة والقتل برخصة .. قانون الغاب يا عزيزى
تحياتى

lojain said...

اولا: والله اذا كان البلوج رجالى فدى غلطة منى او من اى بنت بس المعروف انه للناس كلها يعنى ورد اى واحدة محترمة بيبقى من باب انه كده بيوقظ الناس على البلاوى اللى بتحصل و بيوقظ الشهوة فى نفس الوقت ... طيب الناس عرفت واتنبهت التانيه ده تخمد ازاى؟؟
ثانيا: مفيش حاجة اسمها انت حر يا ريس الا اذا كان هيقراه هو مع نفسه ومحدش هيطلع عليه ,اذا كان هو نفسه قال انه لا يميل لكده واعتذر عن استخدامها وبالتالى هو عارف انه مكنش المفروض يستخدمها بس ليه وجهة نظر.. ماعلينا
ثالثا: اللى حصل ده اثارة فتنه وممكن هو يسال فيه على فكرة و الله اعلم ولو حد راح الاماكن دى بناءا على الوصف هياخد ذنب كل واحد فيهم
اللى بيحترمه بجد بيبقى عاوز يشوفه بالشكل الجميل بجد مش يقوله اه هو الالفاظ مش عارف ايه بس انت حر يا ريس , زى اللى بيقول لواحد هو السجاير مضرة بس انت راجل مش عيل تعمل اللى انت عايزة و ده اسمه السم فى العسل

اسفه اذا كنت انفعلت شوية بس هو شخصية بيعجبنى رايها و بحترمها ومحبتلهاش اللى اتقال عليها تبعا للوسط اللى انا عايشة فيه

الدبور said...

ايه يلا الانحراف ده ؟
شارع الهرم مرة واحده؟
طيب ابدا بعباس العقاد و بعدها شارع الهرم؟
مش اول ماتشطح تنطح كده
بس غريبه انا نزلت شارع الهرم كذا مرة قبل كده ومش لقيت اللي انت بتتكلم عليه ؟
شكلك كده كنت ناويها يا خالد
وفحرت و هابرت علشان توصل!!!
واكيد طبعا جيمي كان معاك مانا عارفه فساد
وبعدين ايه طول اللسان اللي في البوست ده مش تراعي شعوري يااخي و انت عارف ان الالفاظ دي مش و لابد يعني
ماعلينا ابقي فكرني اتصل بالوالد اديله فكرة عن الموضوع
يامنحرف !!!!
هو المؤتمر ده كان عن الجهاز الهضمي و لا عن جهاز العروسين
:))))

daktara said...

ghost
موضوع اني خضت التجربة وجاي انصح الناس مش هو الاساس وان كان النصح في حد ذاته شيء جميل
انا في الاساس باكتب تجربه شخصيه مريت بيها وحبيت احكيها للناس
وكمان بنتقد مجتمعنا اللي انتشر فيه البغاء والمسخره
وبانتقد الحكومة اللي مسهله ده ومرخصاه
ابقي تعالي

daktara said...

khaled
عندق حق انا اخليني احسن في كفر البطيخ
ماشي يا سيدي

daktara said...

FrEe.PhArAoH
تعليقك عجبني جدا
في مدونتي انا ليا الحرية في كتابة ما اريد
والمعلقون لهم الحرية في نقدي في سبي في مدحي اللي هما عايزينه
بس طبعا في حدود الدين والعرف والاخلاق
بالنسبه للالفاظ دي مش اخلاقي وانا محبش استخدمها ولا حتي اكتبها نهائي
بس زي ما قلت انا شايف ان انا مريت بتجربة وليلة بذيئة في وسط عفن وقذر لا احب ان اختلط به وعند كتابتي عنه كان لازم يكون بنفس بذائة هذا الوسط

daktara said...

lojain
تعليقك للمره التانيه اسعدني للغاية
المدونة طبعا لكل الناس وليست ذكوريه فقط بطبيعة الحال
بالنسبه للالفاظ قولتها وبقولها وهقولها تاني اني ماحبش استعمالها بس الموقف هو اللي خلاني استعملها
انا طبعا لا اسعي الي اثارة الفتنه ولا اقوم بعمل دعايه لهذه الاماكن اكيد بالعكس تماما, انا باعرف الناس وزي مانت شايفه في ناس ساكنه في الهرم ومتعرفش الكلام ده
وكمان بوجه ناقد لينا ولمجتمعنا ولحكومتنا بتفشي هذا الوباء

بصورة شخصيه اقدم اعتذار لكي عن الافاظ لجرحها شعورك
ولكن لي سؤال عندك؟ لا اعتقد انك تعرفيني شخصيا
وايضا هذه اول مره تعلقي عندي
فعلي اي خلفيه يعجبك رأيي , هل تقصدين من موضوعاتي السابقة فقط؟
وكمان اخر سطر في تعليقك مش فاهمه؟
عموما تحياتي ليكي

daktara said...

الدبور
معلش بقي يا عم اسامه غلطه ومش هتتكرر
علي فكره احنا بدأنا من وسط البلد مدخلناش علي الهرم لزق وده للتوضيح
بس انا يا عم لا فجرت ولا هبرت هو في واحد صاحبي بس عمله بتاع اتنين تلاته
p.v
من باب الممارسه العمليه الاكلينيكيه بس
وجيمي ماكانش معانا الراجل ربي دقنه يا عم واستقام, مش قوي يعني بس استقام
حتي انت كمان يا اوسه مش عاجباك الالفاظ ماشي ياعم متأسفين لسيادتك بس ده احنا دافنينه سوا
المؤتمر كان عن استعدادت الشباب والبنات لليلة الدخله بالمناسبه

lojain said...

اولا: اعتذار مقبول وشكرا للاهتمام
ثانيا: اكيد مكنتش تقصد لا اثارة فتنه ولا دعاية للاماكن دى خالص , انت كنت باصص للموضوع بعين الناقد ..... لكن زى ماقلت اللى حصل فعلا انه تم الاعلان عن اماكن وفى ناس انا متاكده راحت و سالت والله اعلم بما خفى ده بالاضافة للصورة اللى محطوطة اللى و الله لو مااتحطت ما كان هيفرق حاجة فى توصيل المضمون الاصلى ان الناس تفوق وكل ده اعتقد انه هيلحق بيك ذنوب زى ذنوب من تبعه او حتى مجرد البص على الصورة .. يارب يغفر لك و يغفر لنا جميعا
من ناحية تانية رايى المتواضع ان النوع ده من المعلومات ممكن نقول انه يندرج تحت بند:
علم لا ينفع وجهل لا يضر
وانا بجد بحترم قوى قوى اللى عايش فى الاماكن دى ومش واخد باله لانه فى باله الاهم اللى يهتم بيه شغله , بيته, مراته , حياته وهكذا
اما عن رايى الشخصى فهو من الكتابات طبعا .. الموضوعات حلوة فى معظمها وان برده كان بيشوبها كلمة من هنا .. صورة من هنا وان كنت بيبقى عاجبنى الجراة فى التطرق للموضوع اكتر من طريقة تناول الموضوع نفسه فيما يخص البلد و احوالها وكده يعنى
اماالسطر الاخير بقى:
فهو مش رد عليك ده على الاخ بتاع البنات اللى مش عاجبهم ميقروش
لانه فى تلميح انه بيعجبنى الكلام ده والا مكنتش قريت ولا علقت يعنى بس لزوم حفظ ماء الوجه يعنى,, فبرد عليه واقوله لا ,طبقا للبيئة الحمد لله المحترمة اللى عشت فيها ده رد فعلى انى مقبلش بالغلط وقدر الامكان ميبقاش تعاملى معاه من باب اضعف الايمان
يارب يغفر لنا يارب وللمسلمين اجمعين

Foxy said...

Beijos, obrigada pela visita! Volta sempre...

FrEe.PhArAoH said...

سلامو عليكووو

ازيك يا دكترا .. من تانى بقول ان الموضوع مش وحش .. بالعكس .. انا شايف انك بتوضح واقع وآن الاوان عشان نبطل نضحك على نفسنا ونشفنا زى الكل ماهو شايفنا .. فعلا كل اللى ف البوست مووووجود وموجود اكتر منه
اسمحلى انت عارف رأيى ف البوست انا بعلق تانى لو تسمح بوضح وجهة نظرى للأخت lojain
واسمحيلى بقلك اخت على انك مسلمة زيى زيك
انا مش هقلك انا معاكى واعتذر ولا عايز منك ترجعى عن موقفك .. بالعكس موقفك جمييييل جدا وكان واضح انك بتدافعى عن الاخلاق والتقاليد ادام واحد بينادى بحرية خاطئة .. مش كدا
لا مش كدا انا لسه مقرتلكيش حاجه وان شاء الله حاسس ان كتابتك هتكون على نفس مستوى اخلاقك ف الرد .. بس انا خدت عليكى التعصب .. انا مش فاهم بتتعصبى لجنسك كأنثى ولا للأخلاق ولا للتقاليد .. لو لجنسك كأنثى فنا بتكلم عن ان الحياء والخجل واضح بصورة اكبر ف الاناث بشكل عام .. بتكلم عن انكم فعلا من حقكم متقروش الفاظ زى دى لو مش عايزه او حاسه ان دا هيسببلك مشكله فتفكيرك او مشاعرك او لو مش عايزه تعلقى دا حقك ..اولا هو قال انه مش بيحب الالفاظ دى ولا بيقلها عمال على بطال زى كتير من المدونين .. اوك .. انا نفسى مش بقلها ع المدونة بتاعتى ولا فكرت اكتبها .. بس لو حصل وقدر انى كتبتها مش هحط فدماغى توبيخ لأنى هعبر عن نفسى زى مبفكر .. عندك احمد فؤاد نجم .. انتى تمتلكى نص موهبته ؟؟؟ نجيب سرور طيب ؟؟
دول مش مثال ايوا لكن الفاظهم مقللتش حاجه منهم .. ولو قلوا فنظر حد يبقا مفهمهمش
الالفاظ دى بتتقال ليل نهار .. وكتييييييييير بيقولها فحياته العادية على الاقل فلحظات الغضب .. فلو اتكلمتى عنها انها مش واقع .. تبقى بتزيفى الواقع .. دا موجود .. لو لبسنا قناع المثاليه ( المزيف ) عشان سياتك او غيرك ترضوا عن كتابتنا مش هنحترم نفسنا وانا عندى احترم نفسى الاول .. هتقليلى هتحترم نفسك بالسباب والالفاظ اللى مش محترمه .. هقلك لأ هحترم نفسى بصدقى بأنى فلان .. ومش عشان تعجبى بيا او تحترمينى هحاول اظهرلك فصورة فلان بشرطه .. لأ انا فلان وحاببنى ع الشكل دا .. لما من جوايا اكون حاسس بنقاء احسن محسسهولك انتى عنى
وكمان ايوا . بعييييييد ( انت حر يا ريس )
انتى مش سجان على مساحته الخاصه .. دى مساحة افتراضيه هو بيملكها .. ليه لو قال فيها حاجه (وطبعا هو بيقول اللى على مزاجة مش مجبر يعنى بحريته ) نحاسبه .. احنا نتناقش اوك .. انما براحته الرأى الاول والاخير لصاحب المدونة .. يكتب يرسم يشخبط .. يعبر زى ميحب .. دا متهيألى الكل شايفه والكل حاسه وحابه .. انك تبقى حره على مدونتك دا طبيعى
لو فى مدونة لكافر ابن كافر .. يعنى مش مرتد هو مولود كافر بالوراثه .. تمام
وبيقول افكاره .. ملكيش انك توبخيه لأنه مغلطش فيكى
ليكى انك تعارضيه وتناقشيه.. او لو مش عجبك بكررها متعلقيش عنده
دا مبدأ مش فكر منحل .. كل واحد حر فنفسه وشكله .. هو اللى بيصنع انطباع الناس عنه .. عمل غلط الناس هتكرهه وهو عارف كدا عمل صح الناس هتحبه وهو بردو عارف كدا .. انتى قلتى : ثانيا: مفيش حاجة اسمها انت حر يا ريس الا اذا كان هيقراه هو مع نفسه ومحدش هيطلع عليه
لا محدش اجبرك تقرى هو حر فكتاباته دا كيد .. انا بوجهة نظرك دى هكتب على مزاج ناس واللى تحبه الناس وبس .. مش مشكلتى انا بكتب لمين او لكام مشكلتى انا بكتب ايه .. مش الحرية بس ف الكتابة للنفس .. لأ الحرية ف الكتابة بوجه عام .. ولا ايه ؟؟
اعذرينى طولت ف الكلام
بس بوضحلك يعنى ايه (انت حر يا ريس واللى مش عاجبه ميعلقش ) وراجعى تعليقى قلتله ان اللى بيحبه اكيد هيقول ان الالفاظ مش اد كدا .. مجرد رأى
شكرا لصاحب المدونة وسعة صدرة
تحياتى للجميع

lojain said...

اولا: شكرا على ايضاحك لمعنى انت حر ياريس واللى برضه من وجهة نظرى المتواضعة لم ينفى وجهة نظرى مش انا بس انا وغيرى من المعلقين
ثانيا: عارفة كويس قوى انه مبيتعمدش انه يستخدم الالفاظ عشان هو شايف انه حاجة كويسة وقال انه لا يميل لاستخدامها ومعاه فىالنقطة دى ومفيش حد اسمه بنى ادم حر ابدا مهما كان وضعه مش دكتور خالد بس بل بالعكس النماذج اللى تعتبر قدوة و مثال زيه بيبقى عليه العين والغلط فى حسابه مضاعف بس انا تعليقى كان على نقطتين:
1- دلوقت انت بتعمل وعى للناس فوقوا شوفوا بلدكم فيها ايه و حكومتكم بقت بترخص ايه جميل قوى بس بالاسلوب ده انت موصلتش لكده بدليل انه فى حد رد عليه و قالله مناظر عادية و اخبار ميستغرباهاش وفى اللى حسدووووه ومبتكلمش عن ناس علقت عشان محدش يفهمنى غلط ,, اللى بقوله انك ايقظت الوعى بالمشكلة و ايقظت شهوة فى نفوس ضعيفة مبتدورش الا على الهايف فى صلب اى موضوع واظن ده بقى الغالب بنلقد الغرب فى تفاهاته و بننسى خالص تقدمه وازدهاره .. طيب انت وعيت الناس , اثارة الناس التافهة دى هتخمدها ازاى؟؟ومينفعش اخد الموضوع ده من باب اصل حرية الراى والا كانت المخرجة ايناس الدغيدى بقى محدش يتنفس معاها مهى بتوعى الناس و الشباب باللى بيحصل بس هو فعلا الوعى اللى بيثار ولا بياخد قصاده كتير
فبقوله يا دكتور النفع هنا اقل من الضرر بمراااحل , ودرء المفاسد مقدم على جلب المنافع
2- انا بتكلم من منطلق دينى انه لو حد تافه و اكييييد حصل مشى ورا اللى شافه ولا هامه لا البلد ولا غيره خصوصا وانت زوار مدونتك كتير ماشاء الله وراح تتبع اثر الاماكن دى ولا حتى كرر الالفاظ دى نقلا عن اللى شافه "روشنة بقى" هو هياخد وزرها ووزر من اتبعها من غير ان ينقص من اوزراهم شىء.. ده مش كلامى ده كلام الرسول عليه الصلاة و السلام وبالتالى هيبقى موضوع مدونة وحرية الراى والنقد البناء مقارنة بالضرر الجسيم ده اللى هيلحق بيه هو لوحده عشانه لا شىء
اما بقى اللى ضحكتنى قوى موضوع فؤاد نجم وغيره.. فلا تبرر الموهبة الخطأ ابدا ولا تعد جرأة محمودة . اصلا لا يبرر الخطأ لدى الاسوياء الا ارتكابه عن غير قصد وعلى سبيل المثال بقى ومش هتصدق:
* الشاعر الكبير "أبو نواس" رغم أنه في عصر الإمام "ابن حنبل" كان يعلن شذوذه دوما في أبيات شعره
* الوليد بن يزيد في عصر الأمويين كان مشهوراً باللواط، حتى أنه راود أخاه عن نفسه!

فؤاد نجم بقى ييجى ايه فى ابو نواس؟؟
كمان حتة ان الالفاظ دى كتير وبتتكرر .. عمر ماارتفاع نسبة الغلط ماكانت مبرر ليه ابدا على اختلاف انواعه
وعلى العموم اذا كان دفاعى عن احدى القيم هيعتبر تعصب فانا عملت اللى عليا واقدر دلوقت اكتفى باضعف الايمان
اسفة على الاطالة
ومحرجة قوى من سعة صدر صاحب المدونة وبقوله انا مليش دعوة براحتك ياريس بقى بجد :))
اللهم اغفر لى و للمسلمين والمسلمات

daktara said...

اولا انا سعيد جدا بالحوار بين
lojain and free pharaph
طبعا كل واحد ليه وجه نظر من حقه يدافع عنها
وانا عاجبني جدا ارائكم واتفق مع الكثير منها فبالنسبة
free pharaph
اتفق معه تماما ان دي الفاظ مستعمله في حياتنا اليومية وموضوع زي ده مايتكتبش غير بالالفاظ دي , طبعا انا لا احبها ولا اشجعها
وانا فعلا اناقش موضوع هام بس الاسلوب خاص بيا والاخراج النهائي للموضوع خاص بي انا لي مطلق الحرية فيه
الحرية المشروطة طبعا
lojain اما
اتفق معها طبعا في نزعتها الدينية المحببه ودعوتها الي عدم نشر او المساهمة في نشر المعصية وهذا شيء جميل
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ارجو ملاحظة بيت الشعر اللي مكتوب في الصفحة الرئيسية تحت لوجو
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تانى حاجة : كلامه اللى بيقول فيه: لو لبسنا قناع المثاليه ( المزيف ) عشان سياتك او غيرك ترضوا عن كتابتنا مش هنحترم نفسنا وانا عندى احترم نفسى الاول .. هتقليلى هتحترم نفسك بالسباب والالفاظ اللى مش محترمه .. هقلك لأ هحترم نفسى بصدقى بأنى فلان
المبدا ده ماشية بيه مدام دينا الراقصة مقتنعة بفكرها جداااااااااا و متصالحة مع نفسها موووت شايفة انها مبتزيفش الحقيقة لانها هى فلانة برضه اللى جواها هو اللى براها مش زى ناس عاملة نفسها محترمة و مبتعملش الغلط و هى من جواها مش عارف ايه.. وهى على كده برضه بتحترم نفسها بصدقها مش بتغميتها عنيها ولا دفنها راسها فى الرمال

لكن!!!!
تعرف السبب ورا انفعالك ده و دفاعك عن رايك عامل مهم جدا وهو سنك الصغير حتى باين الحماسة فى العنوان اللى مختاره لمدونتك و ده شىء حلو و عاجبنى قوى
بتفكرنى بنفسى و الله و استماتى فى التمسك بفكرة وانا ليا دماغى وصيتى منها و بس ولست امعة .. مبقولش انه كلام و خلاص بس شوية هيهدى الموضوع

ارجو انى مكونش ضيفة تقيلة عليكو فى الفترة دى و زى ماوعدت هنفذ ان شاء الله

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معني اختلافك في الرأي معي او مع اي احد اخر يعلق هنا فهذا شيء ايجابي وليس سلبي
اما موضوع عدم عدم زيارتك المدونة او التعليق فيها عشان فلان او علان فده انهزاميه وانسحاب
وكمان انا صاحب المودونة وليس احد اخر
امال فين بقي ثقافة الحوار والديمقراطية والكلام الكبير ده
انا عن عن نفسي من اول يوم عملت فيه المدونة قررت الا احذف اي تعليق حتي لو كان نقد او شتيمة فيا
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